I enjoyed reading this article. I like that it was written from a father's point of view. Someone who is living the experiences, battles etc and has the experience of knowing about AS. Your son, is a gift to you. He is teaching you things everyday, things you thought you may have already known, things you had no idea about. Everyone is different, we have likes and dislikes, hopes and dreams. Don't give up on those dreams help your child attain these dreams. Stocking shelves or working in the mail room may be great for some but being a Doctor or a Scientist is not that far of a reach for some individuals on the spectrum. They just need the proper guidance and direction. We need to educate people in the "real world" about AS and advocate for them, as they may not know how to, but eventually with enough teaching they too will be able to advocate for themselves. We need to let people know that these children are the future. If you and I didn't dream and have hopes and goals and obtain those dreams and goals where would we be today? Keep advocating and teaching people that may cross your path and soon you will see that those mothers of the young children don't move when they see J coming they actually greet J with a smile and a hello.
Terrific article. I have a J. He presents just like him. Thank you for giving me the idea that I should think like him in order to understand him,so that I can help him and reduce my frustration levels.
What a beautiful article. My son Lane is 9. We have been struggling for a year on how to help him and how to find a way, some plan to make a comprehensive difference. I live in Illinois but could relate 100% to your struggles and your efforts. Thank you for the publication. I found it quite by chance.
JC
I came across a link to the article on an aspie site.
I think it is great that you are trying so hard to understand your son's experience. I am in my 50's and have just been diagnosed with Aspergers. I believe it would have made my life so much easier if I had known earlier that I had this condition and could have taken some steps to remedy the social deficits rather than just thinking about things on a single axis of right/wrong. Knowing that I have Aspergers has also immediately improved my relationship with my 18 year old son whom I believe also has the condition.
The one thing I would disagree with is that work in a mailroom is a bad outcome. Work that a person can do adequately and enjoy is in my opinion a good outcome regardless of the social status of the job. Because of variable abilities lots of us are able to get qualifications that we are not able to utilise in a social setting.
All my life, and I'm now in my 70's, I have given my father a bad rap. He was such a difficult person, self-centered, socially inept, unable to achieve any real success in life, and he made our lives such a misery with his violent temper. In one of my earliest memories of him, we are at a construction site (he was an engineer), I am a little girl of about three, and he is explaining and demonstrating to me, in great detail, how aggregate is graded to constuct an earth fill dam.
I am only now beginning to realize that he must have been autistic.
I hope your article will add to the general knowledge and understanding of people like him. Knowing why a person behaves as they do makes it easier to forgive them, at least in hindsight. I'm only sorry that it has taken me this long to find an explanation for his behaviour.
What an excellent article! As you noted, AS children experience significant social difficulty, and usually rate low in empathy as compared to their peers. In this cruel world, what place should we have for those who ignore the needs and feelings of others?
Nowhere. Let em stay and reproduce their vile offspring in Silicon Valley and Redmond and hope they dont leech out!
To Anonymous Sept. 7, 2008 19:51 pm:
You don't need to worry about them "leeching" out of Silicon Valley. From the tone of your response the unempathic people have already leached out to where ever you are.
I came across this article while researching information on Aspergers. I have an almost 3 year old grandson. I am suspecting he might have Aspergers Syndrome.
As a baby he was hard to hold. He would arch his back and not allow you to hold him sitting down for long. He was fascinated with the ceiling fans. He did not like for you to take his picture and would look away. We could never get him to wave bye bye and does not make eye contact all the time. He seems extremely intelligent. He talks with perfect grammer and if you say a word that he has not heard, he will repeat it until he says it correctly. Lately he has shown extreme interest in Big trucks and equipment. He has all the toys, and will pick out a DVD about one and watch it endlessly. He has never seemed to like watching TV. He goes to an in home daycare and has a hard time playing with the other kids and tends to take away toys and not share.
What do you think?
Lovely piece of work - you described my life as an AS parent to a remarkable 12 year old girl - and as the relative of an assorted variety of eccentrics - thanks for the laugh - Cheri
Dear Cheryl,
You described my son to a dot. He just turned 4 and he always had a fascination with fans and wheels (anything that turns). Then with big trucks and equipments but his love a wheels was still there and how the trucks work. After that it turned to airplans and turbines (because they spin). He will get a dvd about them and repeat it many times. He likes watching the same cartoons all the time (dora, max and rubi...). He doesn't like tight clothes, clothes with buttons...always been very picky with his clothes. He prefers to wear piyamas if possible. He makes some eye contact sometimes but our conversations are merely about airplanes, wheels, cars and how they work..sometimes about school and how mean his teacher is. He talks about that and may respond to other quesitons but not elaborate. He hugs and kisses but not with a lot of passion. He talks a lot when playing with his little cars or airplanes but I think that is normal. He has lots of problems in public school where he is constantly being screamed at for not sitting on the carpet for the 45 minutes that is required. So now we, the parents, have to go in with him every day to school and help because he get "violent" when he throws a tantrum (when he doesn't get his way... looks like a 2 year old getting upet, not really violent because he is not hitting but making mimics of kicking). Sometimes I think he is really spoiled but others, I can see some of the traits mentioned for AS like talking more than listening to schoolmates. Does he have it? Is he too young to be diagnosed? Most probably, but what we started doing is educating ourselves on how to make things easier for him until he can finally be diagnosed with AS or that he is a strong will little boy. We are also cutting tv to almost nul and everything he used to play with, we are changing it so he can learn new things. We are also teaching him to have more patience and wait for us, for example, to finish eating before leaving the table. He has been learning fast.
Hope this helped.
Pati
The article provided good insight as my 4 1/2 year old son shows traits of AS (OCD, routines dependent, repetitive phrases, social distance unaware, trouble falling asleep, highly interested in books, sang words before speaking them). He started JK in September and the description "he seems different from others socially" has come up.
We're coming to terms with it and moving towards steps for diagnosis. In the meantime as I educate myself, any books on recommended strategies would be helpful - thank you! Specifically, ones that address: Do I take the trains away gradually, do I move towards no TV and no computer?
I can't help wonder "Will he ever go to university?" and so I think joining a support group would help with the anxiety, guilt and exhaustion I've experienced over the last several months - close to two years - in trying to figure out what this is and what to do.
Hi:
Thank you very much for writing about our "special children". My son was 2 and some odd when he was sequencing letters, reading like a fiend soon after..but at play school was afraid of the children. The early childhood workers were right on the ball with concerns, but we got sent away from our MD twice, because he seemed so normal and intelligient in public. He was assessed when he started throwing things in class at JK. Since then we have worked with some amazing people, peppered with expensive and unpleasant experiences with people who cannot deliver and with the shadiest of credentials.
Your J sounds like ours who is now 8, I have taken to repeating myself ad naseum appealing to their ability to rationalize...to get the hang of social rules..so far performance at small group gatherings is great. I have even noticed social cuing, holding back recently. I think its important to understand how they think and react to help all to cope at home...thats what we have done, but unfortunately, as I say to my spouse ..the world will not be his parents..so, at least for my son, we keep plugging away to fill up his mind with a catalogue of social rules ( they all have amazing recall). I have taken him everywhere to see how he reacts and works to alleviate his anxiety with each situation...subway crowds, noisy supermarkets etc...de-sensitization seems to work, and build realization of triggers and how to cope with them. Even if it means I have had to endure stares at Indigo, and restaurants. He can now sit through a noisy restaurant, not fidget and read out loud in church, tolerate a crowded bus, and apologizes profusely for bumping into people. I wish there was someone who could provide a social-coach service to chaperone these kids at school recess, gatherings etc, when parents (who work) cannot do constantly. ...to capture every teaching moment. These children are highly intelligient, but not creative, so the experience of having done or seen something (at least for my son) seem to have an incredible teaching effect. I have been in search of an overnight camp catering specifically to Asp kids ..for a truly intense social challenge. It might be a disaster...but in my experience, they always grow from it...just at a slower rate, and more dramatic fashion, than neurotypical children.
I am not sure where my son will end up professionally..but my one goal is for him to be happy, have people that care about him as a friend, and hopefully, a spouse who will understand that he is a phenomenal, wickedly funny, intelligient and warm human being who is challenged by his lack of control over his brain challenges.
For Cheryl: You are very astute - I would be concerned (as a health care professional), the current message is the sooner the intervention, the better..so if you can get at least some input from a developmental pediatrician or a speech pathologist ...think you can work ahead, until people feel the label is appropriate. ..you have nothing to lose. This is from the perspective of a parent who was sent away for 2.5yrs....its a humoungous amount of time for the growing brain...and I always wonder if things would have been a little bit different, perhaps less traumatizing for all in the long run.
Thanks again, and good luck to all parents who struggle with these children who have so much to offer and who deserve more then the shallow stares and comments from people who themselves could use help such as Mr/Ms.Anonymous.
It is like looking into a mirror in reading about other peoples experiences. The puzzle pieces fit perfectly only after our 7 year olds younger brother was diagnosed with a language delay and ASD. To have an elder son who is truly brilliant and thoughtful in one moment turn into an annoyed and frustrated toddler is heartbreaking. He spends time telling his brain aloud to think kind and happy thoughts. To compound his situation he is profoundly deaf in one ear. I know from my heart he will have an amazing life, it will be his life. We as parents are ovewhelmed, proud, amazed and scared all in the one breath. My boys have us and each other . . . for a start anyway. Thank all for sharing.
It all makes sense now to me. . . RELIEF !
I'm 35 years old, married, one kid, great career, difficulty with school, struggles with work, social interactions.
I upset a lot of people with my mis-queues and body language interpretation. They call me cold and emotionless, but also oddly charming and kind.
(chick's would hit on me all the time, and I couldn't tell! friends always picked up on the obvious queues, but not me.)
Anyway, up until recently learning about Asperger's, I truly thought I was from another planet, or I was given some kind of 'gift' of intensified observation. I've always thought I was superior, yet inferior at the same time.
I was born with severe brain damage (difficult birth) and I'm deaf in my left ear and mostly my right too as a result.
- first 3 years was a lot of crying and wanting to be held and delayed speech skills. Then, I skyrocketed with skills and became above-average in many ways. Just odd thinking and piecing things together wrongly, but still acceptable in other ways. . . . .
I've always kept my disabilities a secret with great success. "getting by" has become an artform for me.
I've been very successful with music over the years, (gifted student program) playing in many bands and genres of music.
I've never had to 'think' about music. Self-taught with a determined obsession. Its just like speaking for me, on any instrument I can express with.
I'm a bit of a Savant, in that I'm obsessed with Music and can play about 4,300 songs on 14 instruments. I collect instruments and vow to play each and every one, once I eventually acquire each of them. I've invested tens of thousands on music gear, recording equipment with no desire to be famous. I never let people hear my creations. I fear the consequences for some reason. . . . I tell everyone that I can see and feel music, just like emotions and color.
Anyway, glad to see I'm likely just another Aspie. . . it makes me feel comforted. . . thanks a bunch everyone!
Our son was just diagnosed today at age 5, it was that obvious. I have known for almost 2 years though as his lively behaviour became apperent to the point of 'his brain definetly thinks different'. I had read about Apergers at that time and discussed it with my sister about my findings that described his behaviour to a tee. She has a teen son with ADD and she tried to put my mind a tease that 'he is just an active little boy', until we left him at her house for an overnight and he had one of his explosions. It convinced her, but I am no doctor.
Great article. I believe my education will now commence again. He is great little guy none the less.
Thanks to everyone.
From an adult aspie to all those who live, love, and work with me and and my friends: we are contributing to your communities. Aspies are good employees, law-abiding citizens, and loyal friends. To those of you who are fearful of difference - accept us, don't stigmatize us - we are your friends, co-workers and neighbours. Who knows - one day you may meet one of us and recognize a bit of us in yourselves. And when you do, the AS community will be there for you.
Our 13 year old was diagnosed a year ago, he was diagnosed at 10 with adhd/mild odd. The Asperger's identification helps us to understand why he has so little respect for teachers, and little need for social contact. We have gone through so much as a family to get to where we are now, but havent' found a solution on the educational front. My son failed math last year, but after one month with an amazing tutor, at 13 he is doing grade twelve algebra. As parents, we are finally beginning to think out of the box and coming up with creative solutions to nurture his considerable capabilities. Meditiation is very cool with him, as he sees visions of things I could never imagine. These children need to be treated differently, for if allowed to flourish could become powerful contributors to society. What we do now is IEP them, and try to push them through a ridiculous curriculum that frustrates and bores them. I encourage parents of aspies to treasure your child, nurture their strengths, advocate, and accept that others will not always appreciate what makes your child unique. Look after yourself too, as parenting these kids is not for sissies.
Thank you for the article and the comments also. Richard is 15 and was diagnosed with ADHD/AS when he was nearly 12. He was born in 1994 and from the age of 9 months I noticed he was developing differently from his sister, who is one year older. Stimming and not hitting those milestones. It was a bit of nightmare. Fear for his wellbeing. Searching-as a caring parent does for medical help, for understanding, for peace of mind. Was it me ? Did I do something wrong? why? why? what? yeah tough times. One doctor said "He just doesn't get it!" I would never have given up on him. I gave up my career and my marriage failed. I am happy he has extra help at high school now - with IEP his grades are B's. He does not take medication at this time. He is so special to each member of our family and everyone who knows him or has worked with him. He cartoons brilliantly and is an expert at everything he is interested in. When he has no interest... it becomes hard work for all involved. We respect him as a person and that he is different. We educate him constantly in everyday stuff. We live happily and peacefully together with patience and understanding-between all of us. He is very loved and he is told daily. I would not trade my Richard for anything. He colours my world.
THIS ARTICLE IS AMAZING AND IS HELPING US PUT SOME THINGS ABOUT OUR 18 YEAR OLD IN PERSPECTIVE. We are currenting waiting for an assessment and possible diagnoses of Aspergers - but we are already 100% certain that we are in fact dealing with Aspergers and the more we read the more we see our son in the reading. He has always had the friends issue, gifted mathmatically, low frustration level (last night knocked over the Christmas tree because we insisted he stop playing his guitar at 12:30 am and go to bed after playing since noon - he thought we were being unfair because he "loves" playing guitar - we simply wanted to go to sleep and didnt want him up all night keeping us awake), obsessive compusive issues, etc etc. He was originally diagnosed with tourettes at age 5 then ADD and OCD were added. He also started having seizures at age 10 and I understand this is not uncommon with Aspergers. And there are SO many other tendencies! He seems to have no understanding of his behaviour on others and we have often thought we have just spoiled him - how else could he be so oblivious?? Or so we thought. Our frustration level is through the roof and there are far too many battles going on now. We don't know how to get through to him and are scared about his future. Not academically (he just finished his first university term with a 94% average) but socially. We hope that with a diagnoses we will also get guidance.
What a wonderful article. Our son was diagnosed with AS in Sept 09. It was a great relief, because now we understand why is the way he is. The yelling in our house has decreased 100%. We get who he is. We are also enjoying our little boy (he's 9) again. In the past, we have tried taking away his movies and computer as discipline methods to no avail. This is because, his preoccupation is movies and movie stars. He knows the bios on most of the big ones, and quote verbatim. Now, we are trying to teach him in a literal way. eg. Why he cannot have a new movie everytime he wants one. He is learning about earning his way. We now explain why 'social situations' have to be handled in different ways. We have a lot of support at his school, with our families and a private child psychologist. (which is not easy to afford).
I know he is going to great in life, because he is great. Our life has been enriched by our son.
Hey there—loved the article. I am wondering how you and your family are doing now, 2 1/2 years later?! I see many adults with Aspergers on a bi-weekly basis when I help facilitate a group, and i was grabbed by your comment about the mailroom. As a parent, I totally get the whole 'desire for best' piece, but as a friend to many Aspies, I would encourage you to consider the utilitarian notion of work for money. I have heard many Aspies talk about how work provides them with a sense of accomplishment and integration into the mainstream, but at the same time, the work for money furnishes their ability to pursue their interests, hobbies and activities of preference outside of working hours.
Also—life for people with AS gets better and easier over time, much as it does for Neurotypicals. This is of course not the case for all humans, but lots of the guys (and occasional ladies) talk about life getting better, coping getting easier, and meaning found as they age. After all, life is long, and practice makes most things easier. Take heart!
Thanks for sharing of yourself and your family. I do hope that all is well!
Meredith, thank you for your comment. I really needed that. My 15 yr old is a wonderful, intelligent, gentle and caring teen who happens to be an Aspie. I worry about him constantly and wonder what his life will be like as an adult when his parents are both gone. It is good to hear that adult Aspies are saying that it gets better. Yes, I understand not every person's life will get better, but even Aspies can actually say that they can over come the "social" issues and say they can cope in this foreign world.
Richard's mom - you aren amazing! Hope you're doing well.
Hi Denis (and others). What a wonderful article! I am an Aspy diagnosed as an adult. Your description of J. and challenges enticed me to share some of the *social tricks* I used as a kid. I used to stammer real bad if I'm in a large group, more so if there are strangers in it. Too much information to process! Argh! So I tended to shut down or obsess about something completely unrelated (like how many red cars are there compared to blue)
I do however at that age have a fondness for Homer's Iliad and Odyssey — would memorise stanzas upon stanzas in sometimes more than one languages (I speak 7!) and decided to try acting on stage (I liked to pretend that I'm Hector of Troy). I found learning acting helps develop some more normalised social cues, like smiling and talking clearly, with certain cadence, to audiences, with bodily gestures emphasised. Yes, I do practice how to behave around people before any encounter/meetings! At least now it's not as awkward to, say, smile and talk; instead of my usual dead-pan, really articulate but robotic phrases, with almost no social or emotional content. I'm not ashamed to say that sometimes I borrow "small talk" phrases from the scripts I used to memorise in plays.
In school it was awkward. Talking is strictly means to convey information, not a social interaction tool for me. I was really bad at team sports eventhough a lot of my techniques were perfect when I practice outside a match — more because I couldn't process too many stimuli from different players, cheering audience, parents, worrying about the different permutations the opponent teams will adopt, and will my trainers' shoelaces will untie itself when I get the ball ... well, you get the picture!
However, I excelled in single sports, things that require tactics, planning, and lots of one-to-one practices, and trance-like focus like racquet sports and chess!
All I'm saying is, Aspies can lead a fairly normal life. Just need a bit of learning (yes, we have to learn it! It doesn't come naturally!) on how to interact, and find ways to practicing it. I for one do not see it as a disability, listening to music has enjoyment on so many levels — the same orchestral piece can sound completely new to me every time I hear it because I can zero in on the beat, fugue, certain characteristic timbres of different instrument, etc. I can burst into tears at the heartbreaking beauty of some mathematical equations and intuitively grasp mathematical concepts that can render normal people catatonic with fear — I'm a physicist (no suprises!)
Same goes with say taking a walk in the woods: most people only see "forest"; I see different species of trees at different levels of development, the types of fungi growing at which side of the plant, how old that deer poo is and hence how long ago was he there for, and what it ate, and if it saw a bear that day ... etc. Or just close my eyes and trace the texture of the tree bark, or the smoothness of the leaves.
The sensory acquity is something I wish I could share with Neurotypicals. Our senses of smell, taste, hearing, tactile, abstract reasonings are very very sensitive. Just not so much the social ones LOL.
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